Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/22/2000 05:10 PM House WTR

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HJR 48 - ACCESS ACROSS UNITED STATES/CANADA BORDER                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Number 1811                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  BARNES  announced  that  the  next  resolution  before  the                                                              
committee would  be HOUSE JOINT  RESOLUTION No. 48,  "A Resolution                                                              
Relating to  the Free Flow of People  and Fair Trade of  Goods and                                                              
Services across the Border between  the United States and Canada."                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS,  sponsor, explained that HJR  48 had come                                                              
about  from   Alaska's  involvement   in  the  Council   of  State                                                              
Governments  (CSG)  and  concerns regarding  the  federal  Illegal                                                              
Immigration Reform  and Immigrant Responsibility Act  of 1996.  In                                                              
that federal Act, Section 110 would  restrict the free movement of                                                              
people  across the Canadian  border.   When the  Act was  written,                                                              
Congress did not look at it as affecting  the Canadian border, but                                                              
other  borders.    By  March 31,  2001,  an  automated  system  is                                                              
intended to be put into place to  document every non-United States                                                              
citizen entering and exiting the U.S. border.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PHILLIPS pointed  out that  the United States  has                                                              
free trade  with people  across the Canadian  border on  a regular                                                              
basis, and it [the new system] would  cause a huge bottleneck.  So                                                              
the Western states and the states  bordering Canada all are in the                                                              
process  of  adopting  resolutions  to  ask  Congress  to  rewrite                                                              
Section 110.   The CSG West, the National  Governors' Association,                                                              
and the Cascadia  Mayors' Council all have adopted  resolutions in                                                              
favor of  this change.  Canadian  neighbors have asked  Alaska for                                                              
help on  this.  Representative Phillips  said she thinks  it would                                                              
be very beneficial to pass a resolution in support.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS provided  statistics from 1998.  Bilateral                                                              
trade  [between  the United  States  and  Canada] was  worth  $397                                                              
billion.    With Alaska  alone,  Canada  traded  a total  of  $492                                                              
million worth of goods.  Alaska exported  $91 million in metals to                                                              
Canada and imported  $140 million worth of machinery  from Canada.                                                              
Furthermore, 62,000  Canadians and 109,000 Alaskans  crossed their                                                              
mutual borders in 1998.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS  said HJR 48 supports action  by CSG West,                                                              
passed in  Anchorage in  1998.   In Quebec  in December  1999, the                                                              
overall  CSG reiterated  this resolution,  since Congress  has not                                                              
yet taken action.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Number 2004                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COWDERY mentioned  problems  at the  Alaska-Canada                                                              
border related to the salmon fishery issue.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PHILLIPS  said that  following  the M/V  Malaspina                                                              
incident about two years ago [in  which there was a blockade of an                                                              
Alaska state ferry at Prince Rupert,  British Columbia, by fishing                                                              
vessels],   there  were   a  few  incidents   of  Alaskans   being                                                              
challenged.  She  said she went to the State  Department, however,                                                              
and there have not been any complaints [since].                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BARNES  noted for the  record that Representative  Berkowitz                                                              
had joined the meeting some time ago.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 2062                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PHILLIPS   called  attention  to  a   new  sponsor                                                              
statement on committee  members' desks.  There  is one-word change                                                              
in the  third paragraph  from the bottom,  where it says,  "Canada                                                              
and the United  States share the longest undefended  border in the                                                              
world,  and  bilateral   trade  exceeds  $1  billion   every  day,                                                              
supporting over 10 million jobs."   She noted that the old sponsor                                                              
statement  said "$1  billion every  year," and  it is "$1  billion                                                              
every day."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  asked if  HJR 48 would  affect crossings                                                              
only  at U.S.-Canada  borders or  also would  affect any  Canadian                                                              
entering the United States at any point of entry.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  PHILLIPS said  HJR 48  applies only  to the  U.S.-                                                              
Canada borders.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SCOTT PETSEL, Legislative Aide to  Representative Phillips, Alaska                                                              
State  Legislature, said  his  interpretation  is that  HJR 48  is                                                              
referring only to  the land borders between the  United States and                                                              
Canada,  as  mentioned  in  the first  and  second  lines  of  the                                                              
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS referred  members to copies before them of                                                              
the   federal    Illegal   Immigration   Reform    and   Immigrant                                                              
Responsibility  Act of  1996, and,  specifically,  to Section  110                                                              
therein.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE BERKOWITZ  said he understood the  intent, but that                                                              
as he reads Section 110, it is collecting  the record of departure                                                              
for every alien  in the United States.   It does not  specify that                                                              
it applies only to the U.S.-Canada border.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. PETSEL said that might be a valid interpretation.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PHILLIPS emphasized  that HJR 48 addresses only the                                                              
land  borders  between the  U.S.  and Canada.    She  had been  in                                                              
contact with  CSG West, and there  is agreement that  Congress did                                                              
not  mean for  this  to apply  to the  Canadian  borders with  the                                                              
United States.   For the record, all of the  committees with which                                                              
she  had  been  involved  -  the   National  Conference  of  State                                                              
Legislatures,  CSG West and  CSG nationally -  take the  same tack                                                              
that this  [the federal Illegal  Immigration Reform  and Immigrant                                                              
Responsibility  Act]  was  intended to  stop  illegal  immigration                                                              
across the United States' southern borders.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Number 2254                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COWDERY  made  a motion  to  move  HJR 48  out  of                                                              
committee with individual recommendations  and accompanying fiscal                                                              
notes.   There being  no objection,  HJR 48 was  moved out  of the                                                              
House  Special   Committee  on   World  Trade  and   State/Federal                                                              
Relations.                                                                                                                      

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